Legislature(1993 - 1994)

02/23/1994 01:40 PM Senate HES

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    SENATE HEALTH, EDUCATION AND SOCIAL SERVICES COMMITTEE                     
                       February 23, 1994                                       
                           1:40 p.m.                                           
                                                                               
  MEMBERS PRESENT                                                              
                                                                               
 Senator Steve Rieger, Chairman                                                
 Senator Bert Sharp, Vice-Chairman                                             
 Senator Loren Leman                                                           
 Senator Mike Miller                                                           
 Senator Jim Duncan                                                            
 Senator Judy Salo                                                             
                                                                               
  MEMBERS ABSENT                                                               
                                                                               
 Senator Johnny Ellis                                                          
                                                                               
  COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                           
                                                                               
 SENATE BILL NO. 249                                                           
 "An Act relating to assisted living homes; repealing references to            
 residential facilities for dependent adults; and providing for an             
 effective date."                                                              
                                                                               
 SENATE BILL NO. 319                                                           
 "An Act relating to the possession of controlled substances within            
 500 feet of recreation and youth centers; and permitting                      
 municipalities to install `drug-free recreation and youth center              
 zone' signs."                                                                 
                                                                               
 CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 195(FIN)                                                
 "An Act authorizing youth courts to provide for peer adjudication             
 of minors who have allegedly committed violations of state or                 
 municipal laws, and renaming the community legal assistance grant             
 fund and amending the purposes for which grants may be made from              
 that fund in order to provide financial assistance for organization           
 and initial operation of youth courts."                                       
                                                                               
  PREVIOUS SENATE COMMITTEE ACTION                                             
                                                                               
 SB 249 - See Health, Education & Social Services minutes dated                
          2/2/94, 2/4/94, and 2/16/94.                                         
                                                                               
 SB 319 - No previous action to record.                                        
                                                                               
 HB 195 - No previous action to record.                                        
                                                                               
  WITNESS REGISTER                                                             
                                                                               
 Connie Sipe                                                                   
 Executive Director, Division of Senior Services                               
 Department of Administration                                                  
 P.O. Box 110209                                                               
 Juneau, Alaska 99811-0209                                                     
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Reviewed SB 249.                                       
                                                                               
 Ken Erickson                                                                  
 Staff to Senator Pearce                                                       
 State Capitol                                                                 
 Juneau, Alaska 99801-1182                                                     
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Reviewed SB 319.                                       
                                                                               
 Paula Terrel                                                                  
 Staff to Representative Sitton                                                
 State Capitol                                                                 
 Juneau, Alaska 99801-1182                                                     
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Reviewed HB 195.                                       
                                                                               
 Anne Walker, Executive Director                                               
 Alaska Native Health Board                                                    
 1345 Rudakof Circle                                                           
 Anchorage, Alaska                                                             
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Reviewed ANHB State Legislative Priorities for    or   
                      Fiscal Year 1995.                                        
                                                                               
 Katherine Johnson, Treasurer                                                  
 Alaska Native Health Board,                                                   
 Representative for South Central Foundation                                   
 1345 Rudakof Circle                                                           
 Anchorage, Alaska                                                             
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Reviewed ANHB State Legislative Priorities for    or   
                      Fiscal Year 1995.                                        
                                                                               
 Paul Manumik, Member                                                          
 Alaska Native Health Board                                                    
 1345 Rudakof Circle                                                           
 Anchorage, Alaska                                                             
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Present for information.                               
                                                                               
 Joseph Dexter, Executive Committee Member                                     
 Alaska Native Health Board                                                    
 1345 Rudakof Circle                                                           
 Anchorage, Alaska                                                             
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Present for information.                               
                                                                               
  ACTION NARRATIVE                                                             
                                                                               
 TAPE 94-12, SIDE A                                                            
 Number 006                                                                    
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER called the Senate Health, Education and Social                
 Services (HESS) Committee to order at 1:40 p.m.  He introduced  SB
 249  (REGULATION OF ASSISTED LIVING HOMES) as the first order of              
 business before the committee.                                                
 SENATOR MILLER moved to adopt the CS of SB 249, Lauterbauch 8-                
 GS2002\E.  Hearing no objections, the CS was adopted.                         
                                                                               
 CONNIE SIPE, Director of Senior Services, referred to page 25, line           
 29 of the CS when noting the insertion of the definition of a                 
 "terminally ill resident."   She noted that this definition is                
 commonly accepted and used by Medicaid.                                       
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER noted that this language was before the committee             
 because the CS had been adopted.  There was no objection to the               
 language of the inserted definition.                                          
                                                                               
 CONNIE SIPE pointed out the new definition of "resident" on page              
 25, line 23 of the CS.  There was no objection to this language               
 change.  She noted that on page 24, line 14 of the CS the words "to           
 the resident's self, to the staff of a home, or to others;" had               
 been added to the definition of "imminent danger."  There were no             
 objections to that language change.                                           
                                                                               
 Ms. Sipe highlighted the new sections that Lauterbauch had added.             
 Page 26, Section 2 and Section 3 added assisted living homes to the           
 list of licensed centers where it is a crime to possess weapons on            
 such properties.  These sections also discuss the results of                  
 misconduct of weapons on such properties.  She explained that this            
 addition was due to the assisted living homes being licensed by               
 Department of Family and Youth Services.                                      
                                                                               
 Ms. Sipe stated that subsection (b) on page 3 intends to avoid                
 assisted living homes from becoming primarily nursing homes.  She             
 mentioned that on line 11 of subsection (b), the word "only" seems            
 too restrictive.  She suggested deleting the word "only."  She                
 explained that the regulating agency should have more flexibility             
 to give waivers for rural conditions or to allow other health care.           
 She noted that the word "only" on line 12, page 3 addresses those             
 individuals trying to operate as a mini-nursing home or                       
 rehabilitation home with no intent of long term care.                         
                                                                               
 Number 191                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER moved to adopt Amendment 26.                                  
                                                                               
                                                                               
  AMENDMENT 26                                                               
                                                                               
 Page 3, line 11:                                                              
  Delete "only"                                                                
                                                                               
 Hearing no objections, Amendment 26 was adopted.                              
                                                                               
 Chairman Rieger pointed out that page 6, line 22 incorporated a               
 previous amendment, but the change did not include the words " but            
 not limited to."  He assumed that was not included because the                
 wording was implicit.                                                         
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER expressed concern with the Residents' Rights                  
 language.  He was concerned that the use of the word "rights" would           
 require the assisted living home to expend money beyond what is in            
 the residential services contract.  He cited examples of this                 
 possible problem:  page 11, paragraph (3); page 12, paragraph (6)             
 and (10).  He explained that those examples seem to create an                 
 obligation of the home that are not in the contract.  He expressed            
 the need to have clarification on this issue.                                 
                                                                               
 CONNIE SIPE stated that this bill attempts to address past abuses.            
 She suggested adding language which clarifies that the home does              
 not have an obligation to provide these "rights", but that the                
 resident has access to these "rights."  She also reiterated                   
 Chairman Rieger's previous suggestion to change them from "rights"            
 to "standards" that must be present in the contract.   She also               
 suggested adding language that would not require the facility to              
 expend funds or guarantee that a resident has all the benefits and            
 services; however, that resident would not be restricted from                 
 receiving them.                                                               
                                                                               
 SENATOR SALO noted that the resident must be informed of their                
 rights.                                                                       
                                                                               
 CONNIE SIPE explained that this Residents' Rights section was meant           
 to be a balance.  Ms. Sipe likened this section to the Tenant                 
 Landlord law.  She recommended adding a subsection (c) or                     
 regrouping of the paragraphs in order to alleviate Chairman                   
 Rieger's concerns.                                                            
                                                                               
 Number 283                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR SALO stated that a generic subsection would be difficult to           
 add.  She pointed out that there are qualifiers, such as the word             
 "reasonable" on line 14 of page 12 which are already present on               
 some of the rights.  She explained that her main concern was with             
 upholding the residents' rights.                                              
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER explained that he did not want to create a right              
 without knowing what was being created.  He pointed out that the              
 fiscal note includes state facilities which often times means that            
 the court will have an open checkbook.  He suggested taking the               
 rights separately and where appropriate adding Ms. Sipe's clause.             
                                                                               
 SENATOR SALO agreed that taking the rights separately would be more           
 appropriate than a general clause.                                            
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER asked if after the word "resident;" on page 11,               
 paragraph (3) the language stating "this subsection does not create           
 an obligation for the assisted living home to provide these items"            
 would be satisfactory to the intent.  CONNIE SIPE said it would               
 work, but pointed out that if an individual does not own the items            
 then it is not theirs.  She agreed that in order not to create new            
 rights Chairman Rieger's suggested language would work.                       
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER cited paragraphs (3), (4), (12), and (14) as rights           
 that needed qualifiers stating that, "these do not create an                  
 obligation for the home to expend resources to provide the items              
 unless specified in the contract."  He felt paragraphs (6) and (10)           
 were different.                                                               
                                                                               
 SENATOR LEMAN recommended that paragraph (7) should have a                    
 qualifier in order to be consistent.  CHAIRMAN RIEGER stated that             
 if paragraph (7) said "possessed" money it would be the same case             
 as paragraph (3).                                                             
                                                                               
 SENATOR SALO suggested eliminating the words "possess and" in                 
 paragraph (3) which would parallel paragraph (7).  CHAIRMAN RIEGER            
 agreed that deletion would work for paragraph (3).  CONNIE SIPE               
 noted that "the possession of" on line 29 should also be deleted.             
                                                                               
 CONNIE SIPE asked for clarification of Chairman Rieger's concerns             
 with paragraph (4) of the Residents' Rights section.                          
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER suggested adding following clause:  "this                     
 subsection does not create an obligation for the assisted living              
 home to provide these items or to expend resources to provide these           
 items" at the end of paragraphs (3), (4), (12), and (14).                     
                                                                               
 SENATOR SALO referred to page 12, line 4 when recommending changing           
 "visits with" to "visits from."  CHAIRMAN RIEGER agreed with                  
 Senator Salo's suggestion and believed that the generic clause                
 would not be necessary.  Chairman Rieger reconsidered and believed            
 that the possibility that the home would become obligated was still           
 present in Senator Salo's language change.                                    
                                                                               
 Number 401                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER stated his proposed disclaimer, "this subsection              
 does not create an obligation for the assisted living home to                 
 expend money to provide these items, unless provided for in the               
 residential services contract."  This language would be inserted at           
 the end of paragraphs (3), (4), (7), (12), and (14).  Chairman                
 Rieger moved to adopt this language, Amendment 27.                            
                                                                               
  AMENDMENT 27                                                               
                                                                               
 Page 12, at the end of paragraphs (3), (4), (7), (12), and (14):              
  Insert " this subsection does not create an obligation for the              
  assisted living home to expend money to provide these items,                 
  unless provided for in the residential services contract "                  
                                                                               
 SENATOR SALO objected.  After a hand vote, Amendment 27 was                   
 adopted.                                                                      
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER recommended that paragraph (6) should have a                  
 qualifier.  After the word "from" the following clause ", at the              
 resident's own expense unless provided for in the residential                 
 services contract," should be inserted.  Chairman Rieger moved to             
 adopt this language insertion, Amendment 28.                                  
                                                                               
  AMENDMENT 28                                                               
                                                                               
 Page 12, line 8, after "from":                                                
  Insert " , at the resident's own expense unless provided for in             
  the residential services contract,"                                         
                                                                               
 SENATOR SALO clarified the clause with an example.  She stated that           
 a home could have a van to carry residents to activities, but the             
 home would not be required to provide a van.  CHAIRMAN RIEGER                 
 agreed with that example.                                                     
                                                                               
 Hearing no objections, Amendment 28 was adopted.                              
                                                                               
 CONNIE SIPE said that paragraph (10) could be put into programmatic           
 standards.  She emphasized that the crucial part of paragraph (10)            
 is the resident's right to go outdoors.  Having a "reasonable                 
 opportunity" must remain.  She explained that without this right,             
 arguably homes could lock residents inside.                                   
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER asked why there is a comma after "week" on line 15,           
 page 12; does a "reasonable opportunity" only apply to exercise but           
 not outdoors.  CONNIE SIPE suggested deleting "to exercise at least           
 several times a week, and" in paragraph (10).  SENATOR SALO asked             
 Ms. Sipe how that would read.                                                 
                                                                               
 SENATOR SALO suggested deleting "at least several times a week,"              
 from paragraph (10).                                                          
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER moved to adopt Amendment 29.                                  
                                                                               
  AMENDMENT 29                                                               
                                                                               
 Page 12, line 14:                                                             
  Delete "at least several times a week,"                                      
                                                                               
 Hearing no objections, Amendment 29 was adopted.                              
                                                                               
 SENATOR SHARP suggested adding, "subject to the consent of the                
 resident," after "home" on page 13, line 25.  He was concerned that           
 "shall" mandates that the resident must allow the advocates in the            
 home.  CONNIE SIPE explained that on page 23, the definition of an            
 advocate requires that in order to be an advocate one must be                 
 designated by the federal or state statute, like the long term care           
 Ombudsman and the Alaska Advocacy Services program.                           
 Number 507                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR SHARP asked if Veteran's Services Officers would meet the             
 definition of an advocate.  CONNIE SIPE said yes and asserted that            
 any individual would have to be official.                                     
                                                                               
 SENATOR SHARP explained that the "shall" aspect would infringe on             
 the residents privacy.  He did not want anyone to be routed to                
 individual resident's rooms; it should be subject to the resident's           
 consent.  CONNIE SIPE asked if there could still be group meetings            
 which the residents could choose to attend or not.  SENATOR SHARP             
 said yes.                                                                     
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER moved to adopt Amendment 30.                                  
                                                                               
  AMENDMENT 30                                                               
                                                                               
 Page 13, line 24, after "home":                                               
  Insert " , subject to the consent of the resident, "                       
                                                                               
 Hearing no objections, Amendment 30 was adopted.                              
                                                                               
 CONNIE SIPE referred to page 14, line 26 when noting that at                  
 present, that sentence implies that there may be other times when             
 the home could physically restrain residents.  She suggested                  
 changing the sentence to read:  "An assisted living home may not              
 physically restrain a resident unless the resident's own actions              
 presents an imminent danger to the resident or others, in which               
 instance," and leave the remainder of the sentence in tact.  This             
 change would basically clarify the standard of imminent danger.               
                                                                               
 SENATOR LEMAN asked if subsection (b) on page 14 imposed a burden             
 on other services that may not be intended.  He questioned the                
 necessity to report to the listed personnel during short limited              
 instances of restraint.                                                       
                                                                               
 CONNIE SIPE pointed out that the assisted living home has to have             
 a written policy that would have to be approved by the licensing              
 agency.  Each instance will be different depending on the size and            
 location of the home.  She said that the licensing agency would               
 determine what was appropriate in the different facilities.                   
                                                                               
 SENATOR LEMAN asked if current practice is to always report                   
 physical restraint to emergency personnel even if it is a one or              
 two minute incident.  CONNIE SIPE pointed out that the last                   
 sentence in subsection (b) addresses that issue.  If the restraint            
 is short term then the physical restraint could stop as well as the           
 reporting of it, but there must be a procedure for ongoing                    
 restraint.  She explained that these homes are not correctional               
 facilities and if they physically restrain residents, professional            
 help should be present.                                                       
                                                                               
 SENATOR SALO agreed with Senator Leman's interpretation of the                
 language in subsection (b).  She believed that there would be                 
 instances that would waste the time of the listed personnel due to            
 the lack of physical restraint standards regarding reporting.                 
                                                                               
 CONNIE SIPE stated that someone more familiar with restraint                  
 protocols would be able to answer Senator Leman and Senator Salo's            
 concerns with subsection (b).                                                 
                                                                               
 TAPE 94-12, SIDE B                                                            
 Number 591                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER recommended that this issue be discussed further at           
 another hearing.  He also noted that paragraphs (17) and (18) on              
 page 12 should have qualifiers.  He suggested holding SB 249 until            
 Monday.                                                                       
                                                                               
 Chairman Rieger stated that Amendment 28 should precede paragraphs            
 (17), (18), and (6) on page 12.                                               
                                                                               
 CONNIE SIPE suggested deleting all of subsection (b) on page 14               
 except the first sentence, in order to address Senator Leman and              
 Senator Salo's concerns regarding physical restraint.  The                    
 reporting aspect would be dealt with through the individual home              
 working out their own procedure that would have to meet appropriate           
 protocol standards on restraint.                                              
                                                                               
 SENATOR SALO explained that the last sentence of subsection (b)               
 should be retained in order to address the termination of the                 
 physical restraint when it is no longer necessary.                            
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER held SB 249 until Monday.  He requested that Mr.              
 Williams be present at the next meeting to discuss the fiscal note.           
                                                                               
 Number 561                                                                    
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER introduced  SB 319  (DRUG FREE RECREATION AND YOUTH           
 CENTERS) as the next order of business before the committee.                  
                                                                               
 KEN ERICKSON, Staff to Senator Pearce, read Senator Pearce's                  
 sponsor statement.                                                            
                                                                               
 SENATOR LEMAN asked if the reference to associated buildings                  
 applies to municipal constructions.  KEN ERICKSON pointed out that            
 Section 5 provides the definition of a "recreation or youth                   
 center."  Mr. Erickson said yes those would be included.                      
                                                                               
 SENATOR SALO asked if a controlled substance included alcohol and             
 tobacco.  KEN ERICKSON did not believe that alcohol or tobacco were           
 included in the laundry list in the statutes.                                 
                                                                               
 SENATOR SALO explained that the drug free zones around schools                
 clearly did include alcohol and tobacco.  She asked if they also              
 used the language "controlled substance" and if they were changing            
 the same part of the statute.  KEN ERICKSON stated that youth                 
 centers are added to those currently listed in statutes.                      
                                                                               
 SENATOR SALO noted that lay people would interpret "controlled                
 substances" to include alcohol and tobacco.  She explained that               
 preventing the use of alcohol and tobacco in school during school             
 hours was not a problem; but when the facilities are used by                  
 adults, problems with this drug free zone occur.  She expressed               
 concern that if this language does include alcohol and tobacco                
 there would be numerous problems since this legislation speaks to             
 many adult used facilities.                                                   
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER noted that SB 319 refers to schedules which                   
 classify controlled substances.  SENATOR SALO emphasized the need             
 to definitely know if "controlled substance" includes alcohol and             
 tobacco because this could be a felony.                                       
                                                                               
 KEN ERICKSON reviewed the statutes and did not see alcohol and                
 tobacco listed.                                                               
                                                                               
 SENATOR LEMAN moved that SB 319 be passed out of committee with               
 individual recommendations.  Hearing no objection, it was so                  
 ordered.                                                                      
                                                                               
 Number 485                                                                    
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER introduced  HB 195  (AUTHORIZING YOUTH COURTS) as the    he   
 next order of business before the committee.                                  
                                                                               
 PAULA TERREL, Staff to Representative Sitton, gave an overview of             
 the sponsor statement.  She pointed out that this youth court                 
 program is modeled after the Anchorage program which has been                 
 successful.  She stated that Representative Sitton wanted to use              
 this legislation in order to help the kids without throwing them in           
 jail.  HB 195 establishes the authority to establish the Youth                
 Court as a diversionary program and sets up a grant program.  She             
 noted that in the Anchorage program, participation of the community           
 was shown to be essential to the programs success.  HB 195 allows             
 flexibility to rural and urban communities to establish programs              
 based upon their specific needs.  She noted that HB 195 allows the            
 Youth Court to subpoena witnesses.  She expressed the support of HB
 195 from the Anchorage youths who have participated in the program.           
                                                                               
 SENATOR SHARP asked if the subpoenas would be an added cost that is           
 not done through the Division of Family and Youth Services (DFYS).            
 PAULA TERREL said there would not be any extra cost for the                   
 administration of the program.  This is done through FYS not the              
 court system.                                                                 
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER asked what page 3, line 8 means; "may secure                  
 jurisdiction over a juvenile."  PAULA TERREL explained that                   
 Juvenile Intake, of the Department of Health and Social Services              
 (DHSS), can refer a minor who has committed a misdemeanor to the              
 jurisdiction of the Youth Court.  The parents of the minor, the               
 minor, and the Juvenile Intake officer must all approve of the                
 minor being sent to Youth Court.  She clarified that Alaska Statute           
 18 refers to DHSS.                                                            
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER asked if the authority is delegated by the statute            
 or from the court due to this statute enabling the court to have              
 the authority.  PAULA TERREL stated that originally this was                  
 purview of the court, but now it has shifted to Juvenile Intake of            
 DHSS.  She noted the need for some clean up language in the                   
 statutes.  Basically the court system is not involved at all.                 
                                                                               
 Number 412                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR LEMAN asked what case can be referred to the Youth Court.             
 PAULA TERREL explained that DHSS would not refer nor would the                
 Youth Court accept severe felony cases such as murder.  HB 195                
 would not conflict with the juvenile waiver bill.                             
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER stated that Senator Leman's concern could be                  
 addressed by inserting language on page 2, line 23 that would                 
 specify that the case be a misdemeanor and the class of felony the            
 Youth Court would accept.  PAULA TERREL expressed concern that such           
 an amendment should not hamper the Anchorage Youth Court and the              
 tasks it is already doing.                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER asked if the Anchorage model would be included if             
 HB 195 passes.  PAULA TERREL said yes.                                        
                                                                               
 SENATOR LEMAN said that knowing there is some protection sets his             
 mind at ease.  He believed that having his concern on the record is           
 sufficient at this point.                                                     
                                                                               
 SENATOR SALO moved to pass CSHB 195 (FIN) out of committee with               
 individual recommendations.  Hearing no objections, it was so                 
 ordered.                                                                      
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER invited the Alaska Native Health Board (ANHB) to              
 come forward to give their presentation.                                      
                                                                               
 ANNE WALKER, Executive Director of ANHB; KATHY JOHNSON, Treasurer             
 and Representative for South Central Foundation of the ANHB; JOSEPH           
 DEXTER, Chairman of the Nordan Sound Health Corporation Board of              
 Directors and Executive Committee member of ANHB; and Paul Manumik,           
 ANHB member introduced themselves to the committee.                           
                                                                               
 Number 355                                                                    
 ANNE WALKER explained that the ANHB represents 93,000 Alaska                  
 natives on health care issues.  ANHB is the standing health                   
 committee of the Alaska Federation of Natives.  She stated that               
 ANHB supports SB 284 and SB 259.  She explained that mandatory                
 health education in the schools is needed; she urged a senate                 
 companion to HB 320.                                                          
                                                                               
 Ms. Walker expressed support for an anti-tobacco program.  She                
 pointed out that the committee could help by supporting the                   
 Governor's proposed increase in tobacco tax.  She stated that ANHB            
 supports a $1, as opposed to the Governor's 42 cents, per pack                
 cigarette tax.  The increased tax would prevent easy access to                
 tobacco for children.  Ms. Walker stated ANHB support of SB 235.              
                                                                               
 Number 311                                                                    
                                                                               
 KATHY JOHNSON referred to the ANHB briefing paper on "Home and                
 Community Based Services" when noting that in 1993 federal waivers            
 allowed Medicaid funds to be used to provide home and community               
 based services in Alaska; however, Medicaid limitations have                  
 delayed the implementation of these new authorities.  The ANHB                
 realizes that home and community based care will decrease the need            
 for institutional services in the long term.  This will result in             
 dramatic cost savings for the state.  She urged the legislature to            
 provide the medical assistance funding necessary to enhance these             
 services.  She stated that the ANHB supports SB 249 and HB 377.               
                                                                               
 Ms. Johnson read the ANHB briefing paper on "Health Promotion and             
 Disease Prevention" which gave many statistics that illustrate that           
 almost one-third of all Native deaths are due to suicides,                    
 homicides, and unintentional injuries.  She noted that many people            
 are giving up smoking; however, they are turning to chewing.  This            
 is related to the increase in heart disease and stroke.  She said             
 that health prevention and information are ways to combat such                
 problems.                                                                     
                                                                               
 Ms. Johnson noted that the South Central Foundation has opened one            
 of the first FAS treatment facilities in the country.  Indian                 
 Health Services (IHS) supplies the majority of the funding.  She              
 said that additional help was needed.  She stated support for                 
 funding of physicians assistant training programs.  ANHB supports             
 SB 231, HB 341 for reimbursement of services for physicians                   
 assistants in rural Alaska.  She noted that physicians assistants             
 are often economical.                                                         
                                                                               
 Ms. Johnson stated support for funding of mental health and                   
 substance abuse services.  She emphasized that it is essential to             
 continue efforts to resolve the Mental Health Lands Trust so that             
 state funding remains intact for services currently provided.  She            
 expressed concern with the provision of adequate resources to                 
 reduce dependency on the Alaska Psychiatric Institute by allowing             
 rural hospitals to provide inpatient psychiatric services without             
 financial risk.  She noted that Fairbanks was experimenting with              
 this.  She acknowledged the need to have an Alaska Psychiatric                
 Institute (API); however, it does not seem to be the most effective           
 means of care for rural people or people in Juneau.  In conclusion,           
 she stated that the problems that had been discussed were relevant            
 to urban and rural Natives.                                                   
                                                                               
 Number 195                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER asked how many beds would be needed at the API.               
 KATHY JOHNSON could not answer with the exact number.  ANNE WALKER            
 stated that the number of beds at an API would be proportional to             
 the number of designated psychiatric beds funded in other hospitals           
 in the state.  Ms. Walker noted that the choice would be between              
 funding and locating all beds at API or less beds at API and                  
 operational funding be given to other hospitals for designated                
 psychiatric beds.  This would shift psychiatric beds from a                   
 centralized location to other hospitals.                                      
                                                                               
 KATHY JOHNSON commented on the needs of the patient.  When someone            
 from rural Alaska is sent to API, they often do not seem to find              
 there way back to rural Alaska.  She stated that 60 percent of the            
 people Brother Francis' shelter encounters are mentally ill.  She             
 indicated that such information supports having community based               
 programs for adequate care.                                                   
                                                                               
 SENATOR SALO noted that HB 320 which deals with school health                 
 education has a Senate companion sponsored by Senator Ellis,                  
 SB 314.  She explained that part of addressing health issues,                 
 especially for teenagers, would begin with them having access and             
 the ability to deal with their own health issues.  Two major                  
 obstacles for teenagers when they are attempting to take                      
 responsibility for their own health issues are transportation and             
 access.  She suggested locating health clinics and social service             
 agencies near schools to eliminate the transportation and                     
 communication problems.                                                       
                                                                               
 KATHY JOHNSON noted that the South Central Foundation along with              
 the Indian Health Service want to locate satellite clinics in                 
 communities with the highest native populations for better access             
 to care for all clients.  SENATOR SALO reiterated that also placing           
 them near schools would create an even better situation.                      
                                                                               
 Number 097                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR LEMAN asked what type of non-emergency services could be              
 provided to a minor without parental consent, especially if these             
 clinics are near schools.  KATHY JOHNSON stated that ANHB is                  
 referring to family clinics.  Ms. Johnson did not have an answer.             
 SENATOR SALO said that the permission could be gotten.                        
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER asked where the Indian Health Services would fit in           
 under SB 284 since they stated support from ANHB for the bill.                
                                                                               
 ANNE WALKER pointed out that they had questions about the language,           
 particularly the definition and visual picture of the market based            
 single payer system.  She noted that under SB 284, the health                 
 corporation would allow waivers for federally funded health                   
 programs.  She expressed their opposition to lumping the Indian               
 Health Services into any single payer program.  The federal                   
 government has a trust responsibility to Alaska Natives who                   
 currently enjoy a government to government relationship.  She cited           
 health care services from the federal government as one of the                
 benefits of this government to government relationship.  She stated           
 support of SB 284 except for the pursuit of the waiver for IHS.               
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER asked if an exemption of IHS would be support for             
 SB 284 for everyone except those people who can go to IHS.                    
                                                                               
 ANNE WALKER said no.  She noted that the native hospitals are 50              
 percent funded by IHS with the remainder coming from private                  
 insurance companies and state Medicaid and Medicare programs.  She            
 asserted that they are a major player in SB 284.  Since the IHS               
 does not have a complete comprehensive benefit package, often they            
 provide less than 50 percent of the funding, they do not provide              
 long term care, and they provide minimal substance abuse services.            
                                                                               
                                                                               
 KATHY JOHNSON explained that the Anchorage Health Corporation                 
 accepts third party payments which go back into the pool to provide           
 care for those who cannot pay for care.                                       
                                                                               
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 ANNE WALKER noted that the unique situation of delivering health              
 services in Alaska is often not understood by others.  She                    
 supported Alaska passing a health care reform bill before the                 
 federal government imposes their plan.                                        
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER asked if Ms. Walker's support for SB 284 was due to           
 their support for Alaska working and acting on health care reform             
 or support for the single payer concept.                                      
                                                                               
 ANNE WALKER noted that they had worked on the Health Resources and            
 Access Task Force and the group that merged the two bills into SB
 284.  She stated that they support Alaska passing a health care               
 reform bill and involving the state government in how private                 
 providers and insurance companies work in the health care system.             
 She noted that Alaska currently has many health care systems that             
 often clash.  She said that they support components of SB 284,                
 including the single payer system.  She emphasized that they oppose           
 pursuit of a waiver to merge IHS into the single payer system.  The           
 single payer system would be at odds with their current government            
 to government relationship.                                                   
                                                                               
 SENATOR SALO said that as she understood, the Clinton plan would              
 merge the IHS system as well as others.  ANNE WALKER said no.  The            
 IHS system would be kept separate and would be enhanced to meet the           
 comprehensive health care benefit package that the nation will                
 have.                                                                         
                                                                               
 SENATOR SALO asked why it would be kept separate.                             
                                                                               
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 ANNE WALKER explained that historically and throughout national               
 law, Indian people have given up much, such as land and fishing               
 rights to name a few.  In return the federal government states in             
 law that they will provide health care services through a trust               
 relationship for the Indian people as a sovereign nation.  She                
 noted that the proposed merger in a state or national plan would              
 end the direct government to government relationship as well as the           
 federal trust.  That is the major reason to keep IHS separate from            
 any national or state plan.  She reiterated that they are a player            
 in state health reform because 50 percent of their funds would be             
 effected.                                                                     
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER thanked the representatives of the Alaska Native              
 Health Board for their patience and their presentation.  There                
 being no further business before the committee, the meeting was               
 adjourned at 3:12 p.m.                                                        
                                                                               
                                                                               

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